My experience in treating mental diseases (reformed variant)

kgar

[quote:78eb21f224="Feathered Serpent"]First, thanks a lot for that great post, Sophia! I hope you don't mind me using your research to help people on my part of the world

I have a comment/inquiry.

In treating mental diseases I would also include the points on the second (outter) line of the Bladder channel. Specifically, points like Po Hu (BL42) for depression or depression-related insomnia, and Hun Men (BL47) for epilepsy, and the other points on that same line which have influence over the spiritual functions of the organs (po, hun, yi, zhi, and shen).

Considering the brain is related to the five organs through their spiritual functions, I would think such points would be very helpful, almost obligatory, for mental illnesses.

But reading the Dr. King's comment that the five shu points are not perfectly reliable, and neither Dr. M.H. nor Sophia mentioning them makes me think twice.

What are your thoughts on the "spiritual function" acupuncture points?

For mental diseases I use scalp acupuncture. It's the only thing I ever plan to use scalp acupuncture for (I still feel more comfortable with whole-body or ear acupuncture), but it seems to work well on mental/neurological diseases.[/quote:78eb21f224]

Hi, Serpent,
Last night I thought of the toxins in the liver, resulting from the stagnation of liver Qi, but couldn't reason out how to explain it, and this morning I found out the clue, so I think the stagnation of liver Qi could be compared as the stagnant water in one place, so the water would become poisonous, and you see the poisonous water? So in the body it would become cancer.

kgar

HI, Serpent,
Acupoints should be well indicated to the mental disorders, or the neurological diseases, but don't try to find the "spiritual functions" of them,
the spirit is mainly from you!
Scalp acupuncture is good for some neurological diseases.
Some conventional points are related with the spirit, but not all of them, and the ones on the second line of Bladder meridian don't mean anything definitely in connections with the spirit despite of the beautiful names of mentality of spirit.
Any other opinions on this point? All the comments are welcome.

kgar

First, thanks a lot for that great post, Sophia! I hope you don't mind me using your research to help people on my part of the world

I have a comment/inquiry.

In treating mental diseases I would also include the points on the second (outter) line of the Bladder channel. Specifically, points like Po Hu (BL42) for depression or depression-related insomnia, and Hun Men (BL47) for epilepsy, and the other points on that same line which have influence over the spiritual functions of the organs (po, hun, yi, zhi, and shen).

Considering the brain is related to the five organs through their spiritual functions, I would think such points would be very helpful, almost obligatory, for mental illnesses.

But reading the Dr. King's comment that the five shu points are not perfectly reliable, and neither Dr. M.H. nor Sophia mentioning them makes me think twice.

What are your thoughts on the "spiritual function" acupuncture points?

For mental diseases I use scalp acupuncture. It's the only thing I ever plan to use scalp acupuncture for (I still feel more comfortable with whole-body or ear acupuncture), but it seems to work well on mental/neurological diseases.

kgar

I also noticed that you take the time of the occurrence or seizures of diseases very much into your consideration! That's very good!
Many physicians of traditional Chinese medicine would ignore this point, so losing a important factor for the cure.
However, you'd better not be limited by the timing only, neither by the Five-Shu points, try to find your own experience, and take the Five-Shu points only as reference, for they are not as reliable as the books said.
It's only my personal opinion on the Five-Shu points, certainly there should be some different opinions against me, so all the comments and critisim are welcome!!! I don't mind being pasted with criticising comments and remarks!

kgar

I’m really happy to receive so flattering opinion!
Now I have even greater energy to work and to study.
Thank you for your comments, your experience is very important to me.
With respect to point Taichong (LR 3) it was actually the most useful point to treat insomnia for patients with hot temper and insomnia in a middle of the night. I’ll try to use it for depression as well. I’ll add to my arsenal your other comments too: about drug addiction (you are absolutely right!) and regarding point Fenglong (ST 40).
I’m waiting impatiently for new comments and censorious remark and still studying…

kgar

A great experience!!!
Thank you very much Sophia!
You are indeed a SPECIALIST yourself and have VERY good experience. Moreover, you have made good generalization as well.
I would say a few words about my opinions on what you have done. It's only my feeling, not the comments,
To treat insomnia, you have mentioned acupoints Hegu (LI 4) and Zusanli (ST 36), I also suggest the combination between Hegu (LI 4) and Taichong (LR 3), which are known as the "Four-Gate points". So when you open the gate, there will be better running of air, so the Qi would move more smoothly. Apparently this is especially good for cases of Qi stagnation. For sure they are indeed helpful for those with hot temper. But for depression, they can also help.
For drug addiction, I think first of all is to calm down the mind. As we all know, the addiction is not only because of the physical effect of the drugs, but more because of the mental side.
For the chronic cases of epilepsy, I found that many cases are of the syndrome of Qi and blood deficiency or the hypoactivity of spleen and stomach thus there could be damp-phlegm, especially the phlegm. So the patient may look thin, but his/her complexion is pale, extremities cold, spirit low, and they may often feel dizzy. So, we should try to eliminate the phlegm, so please don't forget Fenglong (ST 40).
Ok, that's what I can say so far. Maybe I would tell more about my opinions later.
What's the opinions of the other friends?