Whose breath?

Dear Tutor, In the notes on Palpation, in particular the pulse, we are told that a normal pulse has the frequency of 4 beats per breath. Whose breath rate is this? The patients breath rate, or the doctors breath rate?
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Wayne Butcher

Whose breath could be more normal? What do you think?

No doubt the more normal breath on many occasions, would be the practitioners breath. So the rate of breathing would be how many beats of the patient's heart per the doctor's breath.
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Wayne Butcher

I think the patient's pulse rate should be counted in relationship with the patient's own respiratory rate. It would be erroneous and very difficult to count the patient's pulse rate while observing your own respiratory rate at the same time.

I think the patient's pulse rate should be counted in relationship with the patient's own respiratory rate. It would be erroneous and very difficult to count the patient's pulse rate while observing your own respiratory rate at the same time.

What are you talking about Mike?
If a patient's heart beat is faster, the breath is also faster!!! Vice versa!


That's the common sense. so how could you rely on the patients' breath to count their heat beats?

Of course it's not difficult to count patients' pulse rate on your own breath.

I'm quite sure everybody could learn it within a hour, at most.